This ones about the Menz
Posted by Philomela on April 10, 2008
One of the biggest and most annoying myths about feminists is that we hate men, that man hating is integral to feminism and feminists, Now , its true I am not a big fan of men, I have very few men in my life, I generally prioritise women over men, I prioritise working for women’s rights over men’s rights and there are very few men I am comfortable with or ever want to be in close proximity to but to say I hate men is wrong, I have hated individual men and I hate patriarchy but that doesn’t conflate to hating all men or thinking all men should be annihilated. and I don’t think most feminists hate men, but really? When a woman who calls herself a feminist writes this
Yes, the boys are mad. Their minds have gone completely around the bend and they’re totally off their rockers. They are raping and killing women and children at will now. The more they get away with it, the more powerful and emboldened they will feel and become. At this point, they might as well just declare open hunting season on women. In fact, I think they already have.
Men got where they are by being the most murderous motherfuckers in the history of the planet.
Despite the evidence all around them, many women still remain in denial and refuse to see how much men hate them. I fear for these women. Kissing men’s ass is not going to save their own.
The good news is, the dragon is dying. Masculinist societies historically do not survive. They self implode and reach the logical conclusion of self destruction. But as the dragon dies, he becomes more dangerous than ever. Men want their sex class, their slaves and their free labor and they will destroy the entire planet before they will ever allow women to be equal, must less, liberated or free. So be prepared. Things are going to get a lot worse before they get better.
The burning times are upon us again. Men have declared war on women and we are in the midst of a holocaust. Still, people refuse to see. History is repeating itself. The Jews, too, refused to see or believe. Until it was too late.
The good news is, men will not survive. This is a female planet and Mother Nature has grown tired of the boys’ and their fuckery. Males have been scheduled for termination and extinction. Which includes human males. Males in several species have already disappeared. The Y chromosome in human males continues to progressively degenerate. Until finally it will eventually go *poof.* Trans can take it up with Mother Nature. Somehow tho, I don’t think she’ll be impressed. Have a Y chromosome? Bye, bye.
Hmmm… I wonder if we can somehow speed this process up?
P.S. HIV/Aids is virtually non-existent among the Lesbian population. There isn’t a single case on record of a lesbian transmitting the disease to another lesbian through sexual contact. It was labeled a “gay disease” because it was epidemic among gay males. It is males who sexually spread the HIV virus and are primarily responsible for most other STDs, like the HPV virus (which causes cervical cancer in women). Men are walking viruses.
So warning: Having sex with men may be hazardous to your health. Protect yourself. Become a lesbian.
From where I am there is so much wrong with this comment I hardly know where to start
Yes, the boys are mad. Their minds have gone completely around the bend and they’re totally off their rockers. They are raping and killing women and children at will now
The men who hurt women do not hurt them because they are mad, they do it because they are angry (or indifferent) and entitled, to accuse men who hurt others of having a mental illness is abelist against people with actual mental illness who in contradiction to current mythology are more likely to be victims of violence rather than perpetrators
Masculinist societies historically do not survive
Surely if we take the long view societies do not survive?
The burning times are upon us again. Men have declared war on women and we are in the midst of a holocaust. Still, people refuse to see. History is repeating itself. The Jews, too, refused to see or believe. Until it was too late.
Wait what? It’s the Jews fault that the holocaust happened? Yeah heard that before just not from a feminist. As a third generation holocaust survivor I am less than impressed. And as a woman who has been the victim of male violence not impressed with the implication that I should have seen it coming either.
It was labeled a “gay disease” because it was epidemic among gay males. It is males who sexually spread the HIV virus and are primarily responsible for most other STDs, like the HPV virus (which causes cervical cancer in women). Men are walking viruses.
Wow that’s original and progressive, blaming gay men for aids! In our next instalment we explain how breast cancer is women’s fault for not having babies!
And I’m not even going there with the junk science and the transphobia
But the thing I really wanted to pick up on was the violent hatred of all men, everywhere, Men are not the problem, patriarchy and men who buy into patriarchy are the problem. Luckynkl proves here that the wish to control and exterminate large chunks of humanity is not something only men do.
Also on a global level patriarchal capitalism kills men too, through war, poverty, and lack of healthcare to name just a few. In lots of ways western women are far more privileged than men in the developing world, and in some cases partake in kinds of violence against them (such as supporting companies that support totalitarian regimes.)
On a personal level I have some men (okay two) in my life who refuse and resist patriarchy, who are not violent, who are not porn users, who do not see women as unequal, who do not expect sex, who are not part of the war against women, I’m sure other women know similar men, these men may very well be in the minority but they are there, which kind of proves that men do not have to be the way patriarchy says they have to be (and personally as a feminist I always thought this was one of the things we are fighting for, not the elimination of men but the elimination of patriarchy.)
I don’t say this often in feminist spaces but I will say that the man who is now my partner saved me. Not in a “I’m a better person than I would have been otherwise” Kind of way but in a “I would be dead now otherwise” kind of way. And I know this isn’t fashionable to talk about in feminist spaces, but he is my solace, he accepts me just as I am and soothes my wounds, He is the first person I ever met who loved me unconditionally.
So yes I know that not all men buy into what patriarchy says men have to be (this is not at all the same as saying they don’t benefit from male privilege BTW)
And on a political level there are men’s organisations that are working to end violence against women such as The white ribbon campaign I don’t work politically with men’s groups because for the most part I choose not to work politically with men, but I think its important that those groups are there and I think that its important that women are working with them and in no way see that as
Kissing men’s ass
One of the things that really disturbed me about this comment was that no one else refuted it on the comment thread. This may be because they didn’t feel it was apropriate because of the original post (which is horrifying and made me go cold with anger) but I haven’t seen it refuted on any radical feminist blogs either (I found it through belldame222)
And it just makes me feel that if someone who considers herself a radical feminist feels like its okay to say that and other people who consider themselves radical feminist don’t say anything to show they disagree with that, its no wonder the mainstream thinks feminists hate men.
belledame222 said
Thanks. Yeah, she’s special, that one.
Meanwhile, there’s another radical feminist who’s just eschewed a post on one of the few things we actually have in common (to wit, that this guy/company is a misogynist skidmark)
http://fetchmemyaxe.blogspot.com/2008/04/laugh-clown-laugh-goddamit.html
in order to take another shot at a “pro-porn male,” who, yeah, it’s not that his posts don’t make me wince and think “really, please just…don’t” a fair amount of the time? and I have even been known to tell him so? but the particular post she’s responding to, while belligerent (as are pretty much all of his posts, sigh), is hardly on a par with lucky’s up there, not to mention the even more rabid transphobic shit she’s come out with (the infamous “Buffalo Bill” post, for instance); and yeah, none of that lot has said boo to her as far as I know. well, to be fair, I know some of ginmar’s regulars did at her spot a few times. but y’know, if it’s “company you keep,” well–yeah.
not to even mention that Rich character (again).
or that nopornnorthampton asshole.
Jill Brenneman had a response for her at RE’s; I doubt she’ll be responding to that either, somehow.
sorry, anyway, back to the topic: well, the way I see it is that the whole “straw person” thing: for every stereotype about pretty much -anyone-, -somewhere- out there, there’s an actual animate scarecrow or two. this would be one of those. There are a few people who actually resemble the simpering “sparkle ponies” of Internets lore too, no doubt. It’s just, well, you know.
Rachel Manners said
I really like this post. What I find most difficult about this kind of attitude is that its really, really, really counterproductive. At least for me, part of the purpose of feminism is to see things change in a way that can reconcile and redeem the relationships between men and women (as in all kinds of relationships be it sexual/friendships/work etc). This process doesn’t happen when the starting point is hatred. And actually, I don’t blame ‘The Men’, because there is no such group. Sure, I blame some men, but if I recognise that societal norms and pressures affect how women see themselves and the world, I have to allow the same for men. Men (and women) who uphold sexist values are capabable of changing. All I can see in the comment that that this post is about is fatalism. Its empty of hope.